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Earle Horton 07-06-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:epxji.8278$aP2.2224@newsfe16.lga...
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Sometimes when we run out of gas on our 80's 258's the high vacuum
> > will suck carbon bits out of the charcoal canister which can do
> > strange things inside the carb. Black chunks everywhere.

>
> Now that was something that brought back memories. i.e. this is the
> SECOND time I've cleaned this black crap out of the carb, where is
> it coming from??
>

Is this a steel or plastic gas tank? Running dry can stir up the rust on
the bottom of a steel tank too, but your charcoal cannister theory has a lot
of merit.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle



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Earle Horton 07-06-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:epxji.8278$aP2.2224@newsfe16.lga...
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Sometimes when we run out of gas on our 80's 258's the high vacuum
> > will suck carbon bits out of the charcoal canister which can do
> > strange things inside the carb. Black chunks everywhere.

>
> Now that was something that brought back memories. i.e. this is the
> SECOND time I've cleaned this black crap out of the carb, where is
> it coming from??
>

Is this a steel or plastic gas tank? Running dry can stir up the rust on
the bottom of a steel tank too, but your charcoal cannister theory has a lot
of merit.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle



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Earle Horton 07-06-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:epxji.8278$aP2.2224@newsfe16.lga...
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Sometimes when we run out of gas on our 80's 258's the high vacuum
> > will suck carbon bits out of the charcoal canister which can do
> > strange things inside the carb. Black chunks everywhere.

>
> Now that was something that brought back memories. i.e. this is the
> SECOND time I've cleaned this black crap out of the carb, where is
> it coming from??
>

Is this a steel or plastic gas tank? Running dry can stir up the rust on
the bottom of a steel tank too, but your charcoal cannister theory has a lot
of merit.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle



--
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jimmy3stix@comcast.net 07-07-2007 06:50 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jul 6, 2:02 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:13:57 -0400, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Even if something like the float stuck, it wouldn't matter above 50 mph.

>
> Spoken by a truely cluelss guy. On a AMC 360 if float is stuck you
> will know it at 30, 50 or 70 unless maybe your are WOT but then it
> would smoke black some and maybe load up a bit. That fuel pump can
> move a lor of fuel and it can easily flood engine at 50 MPH if float
> is sticking.
>
> Stick to doing burnouts in reverse to relieve drive line wrap up in
> 4x4 with your 3.31 power gears and stay away from engines you really
> know nothing about. You are a real jewel Mike R, a legend in your own
> mind.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


Well Guys,

Again thanks for the help. Most likely a spark problem. Pulled the
distributor cap and the distributor ignition pickup wires were frayed
with no insulation at all. Put a rebuilt distributor on ( easier than
changing pickup and vacuum advance and only $15 more) and it started
right up. I ordered a new float which will be in Mon. pm and my
problem will be solved. A new muffler and set the timing and I will
be back on the road.

Ciao

Jim


jimmy3stix@comcast.net 07-07-2007 06:50 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jul 6, 2:02 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:13:57 -0400, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Even if something like the float stuck, it wouldn't matter above 50 mph.

>
> Spoken by a truely cluelss guy. On a AMC 360 if float is stuck you
> will know it at 30, 50 or 70 unless maybe your are WOT but then it
> would smoke black some and maybe load up a bit. That fuel pump can
> move a lor of fuel and it can easily flood engine at 50 MPH if float
> is sticking.
>
> Stick to doing burnouts in reverse to relieve drive line wrap up in
> 4x4 with your 3.31 power gears and stay away from engines you really
> know nothing about. You are a real jewel Mike R, a legend in your own
> mind.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


Well Guys,

Again thanks for the help. Most likely a spark problem. Pulled the
distributor cap and the distributor ignition pickup wires were frayed
with no insulation at all. Put a rebuilt distributor on ( easier than
changing pickup and vacuum advance and only $15 more) and it started
right up. I ordered a new float which will be in Mon. pm and my
problem will be solved. A new muffler and set the timing and I will
be back on the road.

Ciao

Jim


jimmy3stix@comcast.net 07-07-2007 06:50 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jul 6, 2:02 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:13:57 -0400, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Even if something like the float stuck, it wouldn't matter above 50 mph.

>
> Spoken by a truely cluelss guy. On a AMC 360 if float is stuck you
> will know it at 30, 50 or 70 unless maybe your are WOT but then it
> would smoke black some and maybe load up a bit. That fuel pump can
> move a lor of fuel and it can easily flood engine at 50 MPH if float
> is sticking.
>
> Stick to doing burnouts in reverse to relieve drive line wrap up in
> 4x4 with your 3.31 power gears and stay away from engines you really
> know nothing about. You are a real jewel Mike R, a legend in your own
> mind.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


Well Guys,

Again thanks for the help. Most likely a spark problem. Pulled the
distributor cap and the distributor ignition pickup wires were frayed
with no insulation at all. Put a rebuilt distributor on ( easier than
changing pickup and vacuum advance and only $15 more) and it started
right up. I ordered a new float which will be in Mon. pm and my
problem will be solved. A new muffler and set the timing and I will
be back on the road.

Ciao

Jim


jimmy3stix@comcast.net 07-07-2007 06:50 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jul 6, 2:02 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:13:57 -0400, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Even if something like the float stuck, it wouldn't matter above 50 mph.

>
> Spoken by a truely cluelss guy. On a AMC 360 if float is stuck you
> will know it at 30, 50 or 70 unless maybe your are WOT but then it
> would smoke black some and maybe load up a bit. That fuel pump can
> move a lor of fuel and it can easily flood engine at 50 MPH if float
> is sticking.
>
> Stick to doing burnouts in reverse to relieve drive line wrap up in
> 4x4 with your 3.31 power gears and stay away from engines you really
> know nothing about. You are a real jewel Mike R, a legend in your own
> mind.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


Well Guys,

Again thanks for the help. Most likely a spark problem. Pulled the
distributor cap and the distributor ignition pickup wires were frayed
with no insulation at all. Put a rebuilt distributor on ( easier than
changing pickup and vacuum advance and only $15 more) and it started
right up. I ordered a new float which will be in Mon. pm and my
problem will be solved. A new muffler and set the timing and I will
be back on the road.

Ciao

Jim


Mike Romain 07-07-2007 07:35 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
jimmy3stix@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Well Guys,
>
> Again thanks for the help. Most likely a spark problem. Pulled the
> distributor cap and the distributor ignition pickup wires were frayed
> with no insulation at all. Put a rebuilt distributor on ( easier than
> changing pickup and vacuum advance and only $15 more) and it started
> right up. I ordered a new float which will be in Mon. pm and my
> problem will be solved. A new muffler and set the timing and I will
> be back on the road.
>
> Ciao
>
> Jim
>


Thanks for the update.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 07-07-2007 07:35 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
jimmy3stix@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Well Guys,
>
> Again thanks for the help. Most likely a spark problem. Pulled the
> distributor cap and the distributor ignition pickup wires were frayed
> with no insulation at all. Put a rebuilt distributor on ( easier than
> changing pickup and vacuum advance and only $15 more) and it started
> right up. I ordered a new float which will be in Mon. pm and my
> problem will be solved. A new muffler and set the timing and I will
> be back on the road.
>
> Ciao
>
> Jim
>


Thanks for the update.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 07-07-2007 07:35 PM

Re: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
 
jimmy3stix@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Well Guys,
>
> Again thanks for the help. Most likely a spark problem. Pulled the
> distributor cap and the distributor ignition pickup wires were frayed
> with no insulation at all. Put a rebuilt distributor on ( easier than
> changing pickup and vacuum advance and only $15 more) and it started
> right up. I ordered a new float which will be in Mon. pm and my
> problem will be solved. A new muffler and set the timing and I will
> be back on the road.
>
> Ciao
>
> Jim
>


Thanks for the update.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


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