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Mike Romain 05-06-2004 02:02 PM

Re: 1973 cj5
 
He 'thinks' he has changed a stator too Bill....

My bet is still on the alternator excite dragging the coil power to
ground.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> It's a Real Jeep for '73: http://www.----------.com/AMCpointGap.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Electronic Ignition Module...


cj573cj5 05-06-2004 03:02 PM

Re: 1973 cj5
 
He's right about the voltmeter. His advice about tracking down the
spark is a good path to follow. The stock harness in a 73 has a
resistor wire running from the ignition to the coil which drops the
voltage (no ballast resistor). It should have around 8 volts at the
coil. There is a plug in the harness at about the fire wall that is
nortorious for corroding and breaking. I had a very similar issue (I
have a 73 also). If it cranks over, getting gas, fire at the plugs,
and the timing is close it should run. FYI...You don't have an
ignition module in a 73. It's points and condenser.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<409957D5.F8FBB440@cox.net>...
> Start with a Radio Shack ten dollar volt meter and test to see if
> you have any power at the coil positive, ignition on, if not go back to
> the resistor ballast, a white ceramic thingie bolted to your firewall
> and see if it's good. Then crank and see if the solenoid bypass is
> powering the coil, good. Pop distributor cap and check points for gap.
> See if you can get spark shorting the points with a screwdriver. spark
> and no coil discharge will be a bad condenser. If you have spark but not
> to the plugs, the rotor may have a hole to shaft ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> KC wrote:
> >
> > i recently purchased a 1973 cj5 very nice jeep
> > but for some reason it does not want to start it will go to turn over but
> > its like its not getting any fire
> > ive replaced the starter
> > the ignition coil
> > stater
> > celinoid
> > and still no spark
> > why why i ask
> > its almost like maybe a wiring problem but if thats the case i really
> > wouldnt no were to begin
> > if anyone could help please
> > my husband and father have tried there best but no luck
> > thank you to all


cj573cj5 05-06-2004 03:02 PM

Re: 1973 cj5
 
He's right about the voltmeter. His advice about tracking down the
spark is a good path to follow. The stock harness in a 73 has a
resistor wire running from the ignition to the coil which drops the
voltage (no ballast resistor). It should have around 8 volts at the
coil. There is a plug in the harness at about the fire wall that is
nortorious for corroding and breaking. I had a very similar issue (I
have a 73 also). If it cranks over, getting gas, fire at the plugs,
and the timing is close it should run. FYI...You don't have an
ignition module in a 73. It's points and condenser.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<409957D5.F8FBB440@cox.net>...
> Start with a Radio Shack ten dollar volt meter and test to see if
> you have any power at the coil positive, ignition on, if not go back to
> the resistor ballast, a white ceramic thingie bolted to your firewall
> and see if it's good. Then crank and see if the solenoid bypass is
> powering the coil, good. Pop distributor cap and check points for gap.
> See if you can get spark shorting the points with a screwdriver. spark
> and no coil discharge will be a bad condenser. If you have spark but not
> to the plugs, the rotor may have a hole to shaft ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> KC wrote:
> >
> > i recently purchased a 1973 cj5 very nice jeep
> > but for some reason it does not want to start it will go to turn over but
> > its like its not getting any fire
> > ive replaced the starter
> > the ignition coil
> > stater
> > celinoid
> > and still no spark
> > why why i ask
> > its almost like maybe a wiring problem but if thats the case i really
> > wouldnt no were to begin
> > if anyone could help please
> > my husband and father have tried there best but no luck
> > thank you to all


cj573cj5 05-06-2004 03:02 PM

Re: 1973 cj5
 
He's right about the voltmeter. His advice about tracking down the
spark is a good path to follow. The stock harness in a 73 has a
resistor wire running from the ignition to the coil which drops the
voltage (no ballast resistor). It should have around 8 volts at the
coil. There is a plug in the harness at about the fire wall that is
nortorious for corroding and breaking. I had a very similar issue (I
have a 73 also). If it cranks over, getting gas, fire at the plugs,
and the timing is close it should run. FYI...You don't have an
ignition module in a 73. It's points and condenser.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<409957D5.F8FBB440@cox.net>...
> Start with a Radio Shack ten dollar volt meter and test to see if
> you have any power at the coil positive, ignition on, if not go back to
> the resistor ballast, a white ceramic thingie bolted to your firewall
> and see if it's good. Then crank and see if the solenoid bypass is
> powering the coil, good. Pop distributor cap and check points for gap.
> See if you can get spark shorting the points with a screwdriver. spark
> and no coil discharge will be a bad condenser. If you have spark but not
> to the plugs, the rotor may have a hole to shaft ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> KC wrote:
> >
> > i recently purchased a 1973 cj5 very nice jeep
> > but for some reason it does not want to start it will go to turn over but
> > its like its not getting any fire
> > ive replaced the starter
> > the ignition coil
> > stater
> > celinoid
> > and still no spark
> > why why i ask
> > its almost like maybe a wiring problem but if thats the case i really
> > wouldnt no were to begin
> > if anyone could help please
> > my husband and father have tried there best but no luck
> > thank you to all


cj573cj5 05-06-2004 03:02 PM

Re: 1973 cj5
 
He's right about the voltmeter. His advice about tracking down the
spark is a good path to follow. The stock harness in a 73 has a
resistor wire running from the ignition to the coil which drops the
voltage (no ballast resistor). It should have around 8 volts at the
coil. There is a plug in the harness at about the fire wall that is
nortorious for corroding and breaking. I had a very similar issue (I
have a 73 also). If it cranks over, getting gas, fire at the plugs,
and the timing is close it should run. FYI...You don't have an
ignition module in a 73. It's points and condenser.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<409957D5.F8FBB440@cox.net>...
> Start with a Radio Shack ten dollar volt meter and test to see if
> you have any power at the coil positive, ignition on, if not go back to
> the resistor ballast, a white ceramic thingie bolted to your firewall
> and see if it's good. Then crank and see if the solenoid bypass is
> powering the coil, good. Pop distributor cap and check points for gap.
> See if you can get spark shorting the points with a screwdriver. spark
> and no coil discharge will be a bad condenser. If you have spark but not
> to the plugs, the rotor may have a hole to shaft ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> KC wrote:
> >
> > i recently purchased a 1973 cj5 very nice jeep
> > but for some reason it does not want to start it will go to turn over but
> > its like its not getting any fire
> > ive replaced the starter
> > the ignition coil
> > stater
> > celinoid
> > and still no spark
> > why why i ask
> > its almost like maybe a wiring problem but if thats the case i really
> > wouldnt no were to begin
> > if anyone could help please
> > my husband and father have tried there best but no luck
> > thank you to all



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