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'08 Liberty Specs
A friend is looking at an '08 Liberty with the P/T selectrac case and 6-sp
manual. We are both curious what type of axle is standard? D44? (OK, stop laughing.) D30? (More than likely.) We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious off-roading; mud and snow is all she anticipates. How strong is the IFS on this model? |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote:
> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious > off-roading You both know wrong then. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote:
> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious > off-roading You both know wrong then. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote:
> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious > off-roading You both know wrong then. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
XS11E wrote:
> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: > >> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >> off-roading > > You both know wrong then. You are off-topic, and I'm not interested in negative opinions. Hmmm. After checking your past posts, I find that you have very little to offer this group, so I'm going to add you to killfile-heap. The list is long, but very distinguished. |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
XS11E wrote:
> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: > >> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >> off-roading > > You both know wrong then. You are off-topic, and I'm not interested in negative opinions. Hmmm. After checking your past posts, I find that you have very little to offer this group, so I'm going to add you to killfile-heap. The list is long, but very distinguished. |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
XS11E wrote:
> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: > >> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >> off-roading > > You both know wrong then. You are off-topic, and I'm not interested in negative opinions. Hmmm. After checking your past posts, I find that you have very little to offer this group, so I'm going to add you to killfile-heap. The list is long, but very distinguished. |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote:
> XS11E wrote: > >> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: >> >>> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >>> off-roading >> >> You both know wrong then. > > You are off-topic, and I'm not interested in negative opinions. > > Hmmm. After checking your past posts, I find that you have very > little to offer this group, so I'm going to add you to > killfile-heap. The list is long, but very distinguished. How is correcting a false belief "off-topic"? And, FWIW, I just offered the group a bit of important information in case there's anyone else who believes that "IFS isn't suited well for serious off roading." -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote:
> XS11E wrote: > >> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: >> >>> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >>> off-roading >> >> You both know wrong then. > > You are off-topic, and I'm not interested in negative opinions. > > Hmmm. After checking your past posts, I find that you have very > little to offer this group, so I'm going to add you to > killfile-heap. The list is long, but very distinguished. How is correcting a false belief "off-topic"? And, FWIW, I just offered the group a bit of important information in case there's anyone else who believes that "IFS isn't suited well for serious off roading." -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote:
> XS11E wrote: > >> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: >> >>> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >>> off-roading >> >> You both know wrong then. > > You are off-topic, and I'm not interested in negative opinions. > > Hmmm. After checking your past posts, I find that you have very > little to offer this group, so I'm going to add you to > killfile-heap. The list is long, but very distinguished. How is correcting a false belief "off-topic"? And, FWIW, I just offered the group a bit of important information in case there's anyone else who believes that "IFS isn't suited well for serious off roading." -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
-- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "JD Adams" <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote in message news:wISdnd6r65vF-ofanZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@softcom.net... > A friend is looking at an '08 Liberty with the P/T selectrac case and 6-sp > manual. We are both curious what type of axle is standard? D44? (OK, stop > laughing.) D30? (More than likely.) We both know that the IFS isn't suited > well for serious off-roading; mud and snow is all she anticipates. How strong > is the IFS on this model? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
-- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "JD Adams" <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote in message news:wISdnd6r65vF-ofanZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@softcom.net... > A friend is looking at an '08 Liberty with the P/T selectrac case and 6-sp > manual. We are both curious what type of axle is standard? D44? (OK, stop > laughing.) D30? (More than likely.) We both know that the IFS isn't suited > well for serious off-roading; mud and snow is all she anticipates. How strong > is the IFS on this model? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
-- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "JD Adams" <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote in message news:wISdnd6r65vF-ofanZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@softcom.net... > A friend is looking at an '08 Liberty with the P/T selectrac case and 6-sp > manual. We are both curious what type of axle is standard? D44? (OK, stop > laughing.) D30? (More than likely.) We both know that the IFS isn't suited > well for serious off-roading; mud and snow is all she anticipates. How strong > is the IFS on this model? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
How strong do you think the sheet metal on a rice burner front end is?
http://www.----------.com/temp/LibbyFIS.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "JD Adams" <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote in message news:wISdnd6r65vF-ofanZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@softcom.net... > A friend is looking at an '08 Liberty with the P/T selectrac case and 6-sp > manual. We are both curious what type of axle is standard? D44? (OK, stop > laughing.) D30? (More than likely.) We both know that the IFS isn't suited > well for serious off-roading; mud and snow is all she anticipates. How strong > is the IFS on this model? |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
How strong do you think the sheet metal on a rice burner front end is?
http://www.----------.com/temp/LibbyFIS.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "JD Adams" <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote in message news:wISdnd6r65vF-ofanZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@softcom.net... > A friend is looking at an '08 Liberty with the P/T selectrac case and 6-sp > manual. We are both curious what type of axle is standard? D44? (OK, stop > laughing.) D30? (More than likely.) We both know that the IFS isn't suited > well for serious off-roading; mud and snow is all she anticipates. How strong > is the IFS on this model? |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
How strong do you think the sheet metal on a rice burner front end is?
http://www.----------.com/temp/LibbyFIS.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "JD Adams" <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote in message news:wISdnd6r65vF-ofanZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@softcom.net... > A friend is looking at an '08 Liberty with the P/T selectrac case and 6-sp > manual. We are both curious what type of axle is standard? D44? (OK, stop > laughing.) D30? (More than likely.) We both know that the IFS isn't suited > well for serious off-roading; mud and snow is all she anticipates. How strong > is the IFS on this model? |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
Wouldn't it be nice if all of clique wannabes would kill file each
other, then only the real/valid questions would be seen. Might get these real Jeepers back: 102373.1571@CompuServe.COM Kenny Franklin 71714.2367@CompuServe.COM Russ Johnson 74172.1164@CompuServe.COM Michael Baxter aalvarez@smtplink.Coh.ORG Alvarez, Alex ae722@lafn.org Marv Miller ahb@deckard.mc.duke.edu Alan H. Baydush, Ph.D. akkotila@mtu.edu Andrew Kotila anderson@physics.utexas.edu Mark H. Anderson asap@sympatico.ca Rob Zielinsky b.w.barnes@larc.nasa.gov Bruce W. Barnes bas157@psu.edu Bruce Shaw bbarr@mv.us.adobe.com Robert Barr bbrownut@aol.com BBrownUT bhagan@ix.netcom.com birchall@email.njin.net Shag bjv1@cornell.edu Brian J. Vinci boydd@burgoyne.com BRD bresnab@tiac.net Brian Bresnahan brian@wavenet.com BryanM brichard@kingstec.nscc.ns.ca Billie Richards bschumac@silver.sdsmt.edu bsmith@oven Barrow Smith cabarbou@vt.edu Carl caleb@gladstone.uoregon.edu Caleb Christopher Streur cc@kk.nation.uu.se Hans Sundkvist ce------@idirect.com Colin ------ cgphoto@primenet.com C. Goodenough chilcott@hpislrmb.lvld.hp.com Mark Chilcott chleme@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu Jean Noel Lemercier chrustie@bnr.ca bruce (b.) chrustie ciemian@platsol.com Brian Ciemian cjames@dca.net Christopher James Jr. cliff1@earthlink.net Cliff Jackson cls48@columbia.edu Christopher Lodge Stamper colin@wintonho.demon.co.uk Colin J.Edge craig@nix.hard.net.au Craig Harnath craige@ghgcorp.com Craig Eldridge cujrw2@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Jaim Richard Wolfe cuker@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Kristy Rogala d-rewinski@nwu.edu Dorothy G. Rewinski dany@teleport.com Daniel Youngquist darronb@NorthNet.org Darron R. Birgenheier daveb@ntn.com Dave Barclay daveb@sierra.net Dave Blackmon dcockayne@dimensions.dimen.com Don Cockayne dcookson@sas.ab.ca Dan Cookson Dennis_Spurgeon-R3055C@email.sps.mot.com DGEL60A@prodigy.com LORD KARL Y OLSEN Dkocnj@aol.com dlow@inreach.com dmrile@most.fw.hac.com Dale M. Riley dpowers@keller.clarke.edu Dave Powers dryden@noao.edu Dave D! dstasch@uswest.com dwdavis@dreamscape.com dwebb@ti.com David W. Webb dwijay@schoolnet.carleton.ca Damita ELNPPR@ritvax.isc.rit.edu Elf'n emah@direct.ca Ed Mah ESimoneau@aol.com fairfields.sys@easynet.co.uk Eric Smith fergusr@gov.on.ca Robert Ferguson fkelco@iconn.net Frank Kelco fmrctic@ma.ultranet.com Jean Tillson frankg@cwa.pcnet.com Frank Gerratana frst@kear.tdsnet.com wally gary.l.shapiro@den.mmc.com Gary L. Shapiro Gary.Moore-ott.0138645@nt.com Gary Moore GBALOG@UBmail.ubalt.edu gdailey@icis.on.ca Dailey geirla@powertech.no Geir Lauve geno@nevada.edu EuGene epetai-Tramaglino gerry@discover.net Proteus GLENNC@ibm.net gowillys@newtech.net Gordon Lindahl graham@disr.den.mmc.com Graham Knight griffin@ecst.csuchico.edu Kent Nichols grubbs@csc.cxo.dec.com Bert Grubbs gsraven@cris.com Greg Raven gt4651c@prism.gatech.edu Greg Dejno gthorne@netins Glenn Thorne hatchp@msn.com Perri Hatch hbeck@aloha.com Gary A. Hollenbeck hendrick@peak.org Mike Hendrick hermit@cats.ucsc.edu hill-rd-st@redstone.army.mil Scott Hill HOLSTRJ@MCS.COM John Holstrom homerav@berlin.snafu.de Rene CB Lewin hsue@nwedim.att.com hundr921@cs.uidaho.edu Jared Hundrup ignatz@sprynet.com impetus@nmia.com Bruiser jadams@west.net Jerry Adams jadutton@pcnet.com jarmok@iceonline.com jarmo jasonc@csdnet.com Jason B. Carroll JEGMAG@aol.com jeri@alpha.bld.bdm.com Jeri Miller jfr3@aol.com JFR3 jhcarraher@aol.com Jhcarraher jhollis@cdc.net J. Hollis JHV@aol.com jl345@wwa.com James E. Lomax jlowe@rci.rogers.com JLyleW@aol.com jmuelle2@ford.com jnc@noao.edu John N. Curtis joelb@dingo.sr.hp.com Joel Bickford Johnston@DATAPLUSNET.COM jolynn@selway.umt.edu Johanna L Worthy jomnaas@umich.edu John Russell Omnaas jparisi@rubicon.corp.sgi.com John B. Parisi jpiazza@eznet.net Jim Piazza jthayes@CCGATE.HAC.COM judith@boondock.com Judith Campbell kahogan@b1ff.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Kevin Hogan kbando1@aol.com KBando 1 ke6wxr@ix.netcom.com STEPHEN K CROSS ken-is@ix.netcom.com Kenneth Wetherall kevin888@winternet.com kevin kim@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn klem@wam.umd.edu Peter Lem kriebebw@apci.com kstone@mailhost.wyoming.com kstone KW.Huland@t-online.de Klaus-W. Huland kyclass@iglou.com Jeff D. lancec@dream.wireless.ucsc.edu Lance K. Chun leborgne@esu.edu William LeBorgne lee@vancleef.demon.co.uk Andrew Mell lghtchsr@tiac.net LightChaser LiveTV@en.com Greg - LiveTV ltrosengreen@ucdavis.edu Lars Rosengreen LyndaB@oakweb.com Lynda Burkhalter makulit@best.com Lon Smith marc.f.schwartz@yale.edu Marc Schwartz markm@xmission.com Mark A. Matthews matthias.schmidt@schwaben.de mbi02@hector.unil.ch mccallij@ucsu.Colorado.EDU MC CALLISTER JOHN DAILEY mcintosh@capitalnet.com mcox@arthur.avalon.net Maurice Cox mcox@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Mo Cox mcrae@vorteb.math.uab.edu David McRae meach@wvi.com Gil Meacham mgfogel@gsbpop.uchicago.edu George Fogel mhaslett@srvr.third-wave.com Matthew J. Haslett michaelm@nwu.edu mmi4147@aol.com Mmi4147 monro@io.com James Monro MSG3@gnn.com Glenn Turner MTalbotVW@aol.com mtaschek@sun004.atm.dsccc.com Mark Taschek mterry@ns.luk.net Mike Terry mtplus@erols.com Bob Reifsnider mts362@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Matthew Swanson nelsonk@ix.netcom.com Ken Nelson nickp@ssec.wisc.edu Nick nimrod_r@mail.netvision.net.il oj3@cpcug.org Ogden Johnson III osayers@POST.Almac.Co.UK Owen Sayers osburn@nosc.mil Matthew Osburn PACEG1%LION@WPGATE.UOFS.EDU Glen Pace paxil@interlog.com Paxil Psycho pcci@planet.net Alex Zaborenko phigeo@PEAK.ORG Phil George Philip.Tait@phxase.allied.com Phil Tait pstelman@erols.com Peter Stelman quagdop@ns.nque.com Don Bunnell rcw@cello.qnet.com Ron Weingarten rfitzg@abti.com Fitzgerald, Robert rgeer@summit.net Ron rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. 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Booda c101jhs@sssd.navy.mil John H. Stewart cjburch@ycs.ab.ca cmp@netaxs.com Chris Pesotski csaamw@urc.tue.nl Michiel Wijers dc@panix.com Minister of Truth dmorris@cloud9.net Dan Morris donkiely@barrow.com Don Kiely dusek@labatt.com Peter Dusek finc27@zx2.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE Thomas Adams greg@ohs.uwo.ca Greg Chapman hrose@rocza.kei.com Helen Trillian Rose iadlrcp@IMAP1.ASU.EDU jameswar@microsoft.com James Ward jggoslin@Oakland.edu Monument jmckeon@interserf.net John "Machine Code" McKeon jpc@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark KOMOSKYK@wp9.wl.aecl.ca K.C. Komosky ESAB-WL-Atomic Energy Canada lcs@zk3.dec.com Larry Smith mcastle@umr.edu Mike Castle mckellar@zeta.org.au Peter McKellar ml3e+@andrew.cmu.edu Michael Loomis morganw@dickinson.edu Windsor A. Morgan mrathke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Mary Rathke nick@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar Ollivier.Robert@hsc.fr Ollivier Robert patl@catfish.lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti paulf@HK.Super.NET Paul Frankenstein Philip.N.Hollembeak@att.com ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien rallen@wwa.com Russ Allen rankamatr@aol.com RankAmatr rbn@gsu.cs.GaSoU.EDU Ryan Bradford Neily rtj@fhso.navy.mil Tom Johnston ryang@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Glen Patrick Ryan rzuw039@rz.uni-wuerzburg.de Juergen Weinelt sledge@hammer.oche.de Thomas Bueschgens smarry@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown tlawson@email.univpubs.american.edu Todd C. Lawson widenius@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius woo@seagull.rtd.com Mr. Woo -- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "JD Adams" <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote in message news:OJadnV7TxOPIEofanZ2dnUVZ_tijnZ2d@softcom.net. .. > XS11E wrote: > > > JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: > > > >> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious > >> off-roading > > > > You both know wrong then. > > You are off-topic, and I'm not interested in negative opinions. > > Hmmm. After checking your past posts, I find that you have very little to > offer this group, so I'm going to add you to killfile-heap. The list is long, > but very distinguished. |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
Wouldn't it be nice if all of clique wannabes would kill file each
other, then only the real/valid questions would be seen. Might get these real Jeepers back: 102373.1571@CompuServe.COM Kenny Franklin 71714.2367@CompuServe.COM Russ Johnson 74172.1164@CompuServe.COM Michael Baxter aalvarez@smtplink.Coh.ORG Alvarez, Alex ae722@lafn.org Marv Miller ahb@deckard.mc.duke.edu Alan H. Baydush, Ph.D. akkotila@mtu.edu Andrew Kotila anderson@physics.utexas.edu Mark H. Anderson asap@sympatico.ca Rob Zielinsky b.w.barnes@larc.nasa.gov Bruce W. Barnes bas157@psu.edu Bruce Shaw bbarr@mv.us.adobe.com Robert Barr bbrownut@aol.com BBrownUT bhagan@ix.netcom.com birchall@email.njin.net Shag bjv1@cornell.edu Brian J. Vinci boydd@burgoyne.com BRD bresnab@tiac.net Brian Bresnahan brian@wavenet.com BryanM brichard@kingstec.nscc.ns.ca Billie Richards bschumac@silver.sdsmt.edu bsmith@oven Barrow Smith cabarbou@vt.edu Carl caleb@gladstone.uoregon.edu Caleb Christopher Streur cc@kk.nation.uu.se Hans Sundkvist ce------@idirect.com Colin ------ cgphoto@primenet.com C. Goodenough chilcott@hpislrmb.lvld.hp.com Mark Chilcott chleme@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu Jean Noel Lemercier chrustie@bnr.ca bruce (b.) chrustie ciemian@platsol.com Brian Ciemian cjames@dca.net Christopher James Jr. cliff1@earthlink.net Cliff Jackson cls48@columbia.edu Christopher Lodge Stamper colin@wintonho.demon.co.uk Colin J.Edge craig@nix.hard.net.au Craig Harnath craige@ghgcorp.com Craig Eldridge cujrw2@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Jaim Richard Wolfe cuker@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Kristy Rogala d-rewinski@nwu.edu Dorothy G. Rewinski dany@teleport.com Daniel Youngquist darronb@NorthNet.org Darron R. Birgenheier daveb@ntn.com Dave Barclay daveb@sierra.net Dave Blackmon dcockayne@dimensions.dimen.com Don Cockayne dcookson@sas.ab.ca Dan Cookson Dennis_Spurgeon-R3055C@email.sps.mot.com DGEL60A@prodigy.com LORD KARL Y OLSEN Dkocnj@aol.com dlow@inreach.com dmrile@most.fw.hac.com Dale M. Riley dpowers@keller.clarke.edu Dave Powers dryden@noao.edu Dave D! dstasch@uswest.com dwdavis@dreamscape.com dwebb@ti.com David W. Webb dwijay@schoolnet.carleton.ca Damita ELNPPR@ritvax.isc.rit.edu Elf'n emah@direct.ca Ed Mah ESimoneau@aol.com fairfields.sys@easynet.co.uk Eric Smith fergusr@gov.on.ca Robert Ferguson fkelco@iconn.net Frank Kelco fmrctic@ma.ultranet.com Jean Tillson frankg@cwa.pcnet.com Frank Gerratana frst@kear.tdsnet.com wally gary.l.shapiro@den.mmc.com Gary L. Shapiro Gary.Moore-ott.0138645@nt.com Gary Moore GBALOG@UBmail.ubalt.edu gdailey@icis.on.ca Dailey geirla@powertech.no Geir Lauve geno@nevada.edu EuGene epetai-Tramaglino gerry@discover.net Proteus GLENNC@ibm.net gowillys@newtech.net Gordon Lindahl graham@disr.den.mmc.com Graham Knight griffin@ecst.csuchico.edu Kent Nichols grubbs@csc.cxo.dec.com Bert Grubbs gsraven@cris.com Greg Raven gt4651c@prism.gatech.edu Greg Dejno gthorne@netins Glenn Thorne hatchp@msn.com Perri Hatch hbeck@aloha.com Gary A. Hollenbeck hendrick@peak.org Mike Hendrick hermit@cats.ucsc.edu hill-rd-st@redstone.army.mil Scott Hill HOLSTRJ@MCS.COM John Holstrom homerav@berlin.snafu.de Rene CB Lewin hsue@nwedim.att.com hundr921@cs.uidaho.edu Jared Hundrup ignatz@sprynet.com impetus@nmia.com Bruiser jadams@west.net Jerry Adams jadutton@pcnet.com jarmok@iceonline.com jarmo jasonc@csdnet.com Jason B. Carroll JEGMAG@aol.com jeri@alpha.bld.bdm.com Jeri Miller jfr3@aol.com JFR3 jhcarraher@aol.com Jhcarraher jhollis@cdc.net J. Hollis JHV@aol.com jl345@wwa.com James E. Lomax jlowe@rci.rogers.com JLyleW@aol.com jmuelle2@ford.com jnc@noao.edu John N. Curtis joelb@dingo.sr.hp.com Joel Bickford Johnston@DATAPLUSNET.COM jolynn@selway.umt.edu Johanna L Worthy jomnaas@umich.edu John Russell Omnaas jparisi@rubicon.corp.sgi.com John B. Parisi jpiazza@eznet.net Jim Piazza jthayes@CCGATE.HAC.COM judith@boondock.com Judith Campbell kahogan@b1ff.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Kevin Hogan kbando1@aol.com KBando 1 ke6wxr@ix.netcom.com STEPHEN K CROSS ken-is@ix.netcom.com Kenneth Wetherall kevin888@winternet.com kevin kim@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn klem@wam.umd.edu Peter Lem kriebebw@apci.com kstone@mailhost.wyoming.com kstone KW.Huland@t-online.de Klaus-W. Huland kyclass@iglou.com Jeff D. lancec@dream.wireless.ucsc.edu Lance K. Chun leborgne@esu.edu William LeBorgne lee@vancleef.demon.co.uk Andrew Mell lghtchsr@tiac.net LightChaser LiveTV@en.com Greg - LiveTV ltrosengreen@ucdavis.edu Lars Rosengreen LyndaB@oakweb.com Lynda Burkhalter makulit@best.com Lon Smith marc.f.schwartz@yale.edu Marc Schwartz markm@xmission.com Mark A. 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LoPresti paulf@HK.Super.NET Paul Frankenstein Philip.N.Hollembeak@att.com ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien rallen@wwa.com Russ Allen rankamatr@aol.com RankAmatr rbn@gsu.cs.GaSoU.EDU Ryan Bradford Neily rtj@fhso.navy.mil Tom Johnston ryang@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Glen Patrick Ryan rzuw039@rz.uni-wuerzburg.de Juergen Weinelt sledge@hammer.oche.de Thomas Bueschgens smarry@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown tlawson@email.univpubs.american.edu Todd C. Lawson widenius@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius woo@seagull.rtd.com Mr. Woo -- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "JD Adams" <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote in message news:OJadnV7TxOPIEofanZ2dnUVZ_tijnZ2d@softcom.net. .. > XS11E wrote: > > > JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: > > > >> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious > >> off-roading > > > > You both know wrong then. > > You are off-topic, and I'm not interested in negative opinions. > > Hmmm. After checking your past posts, I find that you have very little to > offer this group, so I'm going to add you to killfile-heap. The list is long, > but very distinguished. |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:08:54 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> How strong do you think the sheet metal on a rice burner front end is? > http://www.----------.com/temp/LibbyFIS.jpg > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- I believe jeepery is off-topic for you. -- Men hate those to whom they have to lie. -Victor Hugo, poet, novelist, and dramatist (1802-1885) |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:08:54 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> How strong do you think the sheet metal on a rice burner front end is? > http://www.----------.com/temp/LibbyFIS.jpg > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- I believe jeepery is off-topic for you. -- Men hate those to whom they have to lie. -Victor Hugo, poet, novelist, and dramatist (1802-1885) |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:08:54 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> How strong do you think the sheet metal on a rice burner front end is? > http://www.----------.com/temp/LibbyFIS.jpg > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- I believe jeepery is off-topic for you. -- Men hate those to whom they have to lie. -Victor Hugo, poet, novelist, and dramatist (1802-1885) |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole you, aka SW really is!!!!! Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your user names, as fake as you. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.20.23.22.43.215162@trepanation.ca lm... > > > I believe jeepery is off-topic for you. > > -- |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole you, aka SW really is!!!!! Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your user names, as fake as you. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.20.23.22.43.215162@trepanation.ca lm... > > > I believe jeepery is off-topic for you. > > -- |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole you, aka SW really is!!!!! Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your user names, as fake as you. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.20.23.22.43.215162@trepanation.ca lm... > > > I believe jeepery is off-topic for you. > > -- |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
XS11E wrote:
> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: > >> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >> off-roading > > You both know wrong then. > > > That would be news to the people who designed the original Hummer! Jeff DeWitt |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
XS11E wrote:
> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: > >> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >> off-roading > > You both know wrong then. > > > That would be news to the people who designed the original Hummer! Jeff DeWitt |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
XS11E wrote:
> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: > >> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious >> off-roading > > You both know wrong then. > > > That would be news to the people who designed the original Hummer! Jeff DeWitt |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> XS11E wrote: >> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: >> >>> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious off-roading >> >> You both know wrong then. >> > That would be news to the people who designed the original Hummer! The Hum Vee does VERY well in "serious off-roading*" as do many other off road vehicles with independent front or front and rear suspensions. One of those that does is the topic of conversation, the Jeep Liberty. I'm sure the Liberty has it's own unique strengths and weaknesses but if the IFS is one of them, I've not read anything about it so far. Actually, independent suspension has a bunch of advantages for "serious off-roading", the main drawback I know of is cost of manufacture and probably some increased maintainence costs. *I would guess desert driving while running over mines and being shot at might qualify as "serious off-roading?" -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> XS11E wrote: >> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: >> >>> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious off-roading >> >> You both know wrong then. >> > That would be news to the people who designed the original Hummer! The Hum Vee does VERY well in "serious off-roading*" as do many other off road vehicles with independent front or front and rear suspensions. One of those that does is the topic of conversation, the Jeep Liberty. I'm sure the Liberty has it's own unique strengths and weaknesses but if the IFS is one of them, I've not read anything about it so far. Actually, independent suspension has a bunch of advantages for "serious off-roading", the main drawback I know of is cost of manufacture and probably some increased maintainence costs. *I would guess desert driving while running over mines and being shot at might qualify as "serious off-roading?" -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
Re: '08 Liberty Specs
Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> XS11E wrote: >> JD Adams <FakeAddress@softcom.net> wrote: >> >>> We both know that the IFS isn't suited well for serious off-roading >> >> You both know wrong then. >> > That would be news to the people who designed the original Hummer! The Hum Vee does VERY well in "serious off-roading*" as do many other off road vehicles with independent front or front and rear suspensions. One of those that does is the topic of conversation, the Jeep Liberty. I'm sure the Liberty has it's own unique strengths and weaknesses but if the IFS is one of them, I've not read anything about it so far. Actually, independent suspension has a bunch of advantages for "serious off-roading", the main drawback I know of is cost of manufacture and probably some increased maintainence costs. *I would guess desert driving while running over mines and being shot at might qualify as "serious off-roading?" -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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