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Igor 09-09-2003 01:20 AM

'03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
Hi all,

I have a 2003 Jeep TJ Sport, that I got with a "premium" sound system.
I was actually pretty happy with the sound, but I wanted the MP3
capability.

So I got a Pioneer DEH-P5500 and since I had a bunch of gift cards
from Worst Buy, I decided to get it installed there. I have a factory
console sub-woofer in my Jeep, which I found NOT working after the
system was installed. When I pointed it out to the scum-sucking
d*ckface "technician", he told me that he wasn't aware there was a
sub-woofer and that this new unit wasn't really designed to work with
it, and that it will cost extra for him to try something. It sounded
like bulls*it, but I didn't want to argue with him until I had all the
facts. Well, now I do. The head unit DOES have an output for the
subwoofer (with no amp), despite that as**ole's reassurances that he
has "done this a hundred times" and that's just how it is.

So here is my question:

How can I do this myself? Is there a separate harness for the
subwoofer on '03 Jeep TJ? If so, is there an adapter I can get that
will match the Pioneer to the factory wire?

BTW, I'm going back to see those lowlife sh*tbags at Best Buy
tomorrow, but I'm just going to get my money back - I don't want those
f**kers anywhere near my truck again.

If you can, please reply by e-mail, I'd like to figure this out and be
done with it...

Thanks In Advance,

Igor.

username 09-09-2003 02:12 AM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
I believe all you have to do is have the remote wire powered up in the factory harness and that should do it. I work at a BBY install bay and we have an extensive database of tech docs that has this particular vehicle and what to do with the factory sub to make it work. And if memory serves, it is nothing you should have to pay extra for.

But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness. In some Chrysler vehicles, another cable needs to be grounded for the amp to work as well, not sure if this is applicable in your vehicle though.

<rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy installs are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do suck and don't take there time for anything! I wonder how in the ---- they get away with ---- like that, really pisses me off. At my bay, we always do some of the best work in the region and have the least damage claims in company history. We went 2 years without a single claim, and one happened earlier this year (accidentally screwed through a non-BBY sub while mounting it, hey it happens). But I would say sorry for your experience, but I really don't give a ----, cause I hate working there too, but it pays the bills. </rant>
"Igor" <igarber@optonline.net> wrote in message news:564bfe95.0309082120.346eaf70@posting.google.c om...
Hi all,

I have a 2003 Jeep TJ Sport, that I got with a "premium" sound system.
I was actually pretty happy with the sound, but I wanted the MP3
capability.

So I got a Pioneer DEH-P5500 and since I had a bunch of gift cards
from Worst Buy, I decided to get it installed there. I have a factory
console sub-woofer in my Jeep, which I found NOT working after the
system was installed. When I pointed it out to the scum-sucking
d*ckface "technician", he told me that he wasn't aware there was a
sub-woofer and that this new unit wasn't really designed to work with
it, and that it will cost extra for him to try something. It sounded
like bulls*it, but I didn't want to argue with him until I had all the
facts. Well, now I do. The head unit DOES have an output for the
subwoofer (with no amp), despite that as**ole's reassurances that he
has "done this a hundred times" and that's just how it is.

So here is my question:

How can I do this myself? Is there a separate harness for the
subwoofer on '03 Jeep TJ? If so, is there an adapter I can get that
will match the Pioneer to the factory wire?

BTW, I'm going back to see those lowlife sh*tbags at Best Buy
tomorrow, but I'm just going to get my money back - I don't want those
f**kers anywhere near my truck again.

If you can, please reply by e-mail, I'd like to figure this out and be
done with it...

Thanks In Advance,

Igor.

username 09-09-2003 02:12 AM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
I believe all you have to do is have the remote wire powered up in the factory harness and that should do it. I work at a BBY install bay and we have an extensive database of tech docs that has this particular vehicle and what to do with the factory sub to make it work. And if memory serves, it is nothing you should have to pay extra for.

But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness. In some Chrysler vehicles, another cable needs to be grounded for the amp to work as well, not sure if this is applicable in your vehicle though.

<rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy installs are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do suck and don't take there time for anything! I wonder how in the ---- they get away with ---- like that, really pisses me off. At my bay, we always do some of the best work in the region and have the least damage claims in company history. We went 2 years without a single claim, and one happened earlier this year (accidentally screwed through a non-BBY sub while mounting it, hey it happens). But I would say sorry for your experience, but I really don't give a ----, cause I hate working there too, but it pays the bills. </rant>
"Igor" <igarber@optonline.net> wrote in message news:564bfe95.0309082120.346eaf70@posting.google.c om...
Hi all,

I have a 2003 Jeep TJ Sport, that I got with a "premium" sound system.
I was actually pretty happy with the sound, but I wanted the MP3
capability.

So I got a Pioneer DEH-P5500 and since I had a bunch of gift cards
from Worst Buy, I decided to get it installed there. I have a factory
console sub-woofer in my Jeep, which I found NOT working after the
system was installed. When I pointed it out to the scum-sucking
d*ckface "technician", he told me that he wasn't aware there was a
sub-woofer and that this new unit wasn't really designed to work with
it, and that it will cost extra for him to try something. It sounded
like bulls*it, but I didn't want to argue with him until I had all the
facts. Well, now I do. The head unit DOES have an output for the
subwoofer (with no amp), despite that as**ole's reassurances that he
has "done this a hundred times" and that's just how it is.

So here is my question:

How can I do this myself? Is there a separate harness for the
subwoofer on '03 Jeep TJ? If so, is there an adapter I can get that
will match the Pioneer to the factory wire?

BTW, I'm going back to see those lowlife sh*tbags at Best Buy
tomorrow, but I'm just going to get my money back - I don't want those
f**kers anywhere near my truck again.

If you can, please reply by e-mail, I'd like to figure this out and be
done with it...

Thanks In Advance,

Igor.

Igor 09-09-2003 12:07 PM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
> But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
> preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
> high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
> "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.


I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)

After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
of 20 min.

Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.


>
> <rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy installs
> are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
> suck and don't take there time for anything! ...


Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

Igor 09-09-2003 12:07 PM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
> But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
> preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
> high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
> "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.


I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)

After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
of 20 min.

Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.


>
> <rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy installs
> are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
> suck and don't take there time for anything! ...


Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

username 09-09-2003 01:46 PM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
Did they explain to you what had to be done? And can you tell me what BBY you went to?
"Igor" <igarber@optonline.net> wrote in message news:564bfe95.0309090807.abe7dc4@posting.google.co m...
> But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
> preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
> high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
> "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.


I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)

After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
of 20 min.

Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.


>
> <rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy installs
> are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
> suck and don't take there time for anything! ...


Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

username 09-09-2003 01:46 PM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
Did they explain to you what had to be done? And can you tell me what BBY you went to?
"Igor" <igarber@optonline.net> wrote in message news:564bfe95.0309090807.abe7dc4@posting.google.co m...
> But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
> preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
> high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
> "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.


I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)

After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
of 20 min.

Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.


>
> <rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy installs
> are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
> suck and don't take there time for anything! ...


Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

Snow 09-09-2003 04:04 PM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
Now you should go back to Best Buy and show the guy it can be done, the ask
the manager why he/she hired such an incompetent installer, tell them you
will also tell everyone you know that Best Buy doesn't know how to install
radio's correctly and that they will never buy any car audio at Best Buy
ever again... you just might get a bit more of a refund to keep quite..

Snow...

"Igor" <igarber@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:564bfe95.0309090807.abe7dc4@posting.google.co m...
> > But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
> > preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
> > high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
> > "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.

>
> I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
> that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)
>
> After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
> the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
> of 20 min.
>
> Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.
>
>
> >
> > <rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy installs
> > are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
> > suck and don't take there time for anything! ...

>
> Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.




Snow 09-09-2003 04:04 PM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
Now you should go back to Best Buy and show the guy it can be done, the ask
the manager why he/she hired such an incompetent installer, tell them you
will also tell everyone you know that Best Buy doesn't know how to install
radio's correctly and that they will never buy any car audio at Best Buy
ever again... you just might get a bit more of a refund to keep quite..

Snow...

"Igor" <igarber@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:564bfe95.0309090807.abe7dc4@posting.google.co m...
> > But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
> > preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
> > high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
> > "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.

>
> I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
> that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)
>
> After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
> the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
> of 20 min.
>
> Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.
>
>
> >
> > <rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy installs
> > are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
> > suck and don't take there time for anything! ...

>
> Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.




Joe 09-09-2003 09:15 PM

Re: '03 Jeep TJ Factory Subwoofer Help, please!
 
Ha! He'll probably get escorted out the door and told not to return,
being branded as a troublemaker for exposing BB's shenannigans.

Regards,
Joe


"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in
news:ejq7b.3778$k81.317682@news20.bellglobal.com:

> Now you should go back to Best Buy and show the guy it can be done,
> the ask the manager why he/she hired such an incompetent installer,
> tell them you will also tell everyone you know that Best Buy doesn't
> know how to install radio's correctly and that they will never buy
> any car audio at Best Buy ever again... you just might get a bit
> more of a refund to keep quite..
>
> Snow...
>
> "Igor" <igarber@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:564bfe95.0309090807.abe7dc4@posting.google.co m...
>> > But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the
>> > sub RCA preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's
>> > signal via the high level outputs from the head unit. The sub
>> > amp just needs to be "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring
>> > harness.

>>
>> I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still
>> insisted that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)
>>
>> After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash,
>> found the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together
>> in total of 20 min.
>>
>> Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > <rant> And I keep reading all this ---- about how bad Best Buy
>> > installs are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops
>> > that really do suck and don't take there time for anything! ...

>>
>> Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

>
>
>




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