'02 TJ pinging under load
My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load.
Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started a couple of months ago. Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. Any ideas? Tom |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
How would you characterize your usual daily driving style? Conservative?
Maybe ultra-conservative? Moderate? Hard-accelerations on a regular basis? Depending on you answer, there could be a reason for the pinging... Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:OoqdnWPSacy_2UqiRVn-sA@gbronline.com... > My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? > > Tom > > |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
How would you characterize your usual daily driving style? Conservative?
Maybe ultra-conservative? Moderate? Hard-accelerations on a regular basis? Depending on you answer, there could be a reason for the pinging... Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:OoqdnWPSacy_2UqiRVn-sA@gbronline.com... > My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? > > Tom > > |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
How would you characterize your usual daily driving style? Conservative?
Maybe ultra-conservative? Moderate? Hard-accelerations on a regular basis? Depending on you answer, there could be a reason for the pinging... Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:OoqdnWPSacy_2UqiRVn-sA@gbronline.com... > My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? > > Tom > > |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
Hi Tom,
Switch oil companies, until you find one with good cleaner additives, and maybe a compromise in octane for the price you're willing to pay. Don't force it to ping: http://www.stanford.edu/~bmoses/knock.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mabar wrote: > > My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? > > Tom |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
Hi Tom,
Switch oil companies, until you find one with good cleaner additives, and maybe a compromise in octane for the price you're willing to pay. Don't force it to ping: http://www.stanford.edu/~bmoses/knock.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mabar wrote: > > My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? > > Tom |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
Hi Tom,
Switch oil companies, until you find one with good cleaner additives, and maybe a compromise in octane for the price you're willing to pay. Don't force it to ping: http://www.stanford.edu/~bmoses/knock.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mabar wrote: > > My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? > > Tom |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
Roughly 12/10/03 08:04, mabar's monkeys randomly typed:
> My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? You might try using a different brand and hope you get lucky. Or try the middle cost semi-premium. The missus' '95 4.0 does the same thing under light load at low-moderate rpm where the transmission doesn't downshift under moderate accel. Dealer claims it is harmless but it is annoying enough I just step up one grade at lower elevations. -- Fan of the dumbest team in America. |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
Roughly 12/10/03 08:04, mabar's monkeys randomly typed:
> My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? You might try using a different brand and hope you get lucky. Or try the middle cost semi-premium. The missus' '95 4.0 does the same thing under light load at low-moderate rpm where the transmission doesn't downshift under moderate accel. Dealer claims it is harmless but it is annoying enough I just step up one grade at lower elevations. -- Fan of the dumbest team in America. |
Re: '02 TJ pinging under load
Roughly 12/10/03 08:04, mabar's monkeys randomly typed:
> My '02 TJ, 6-cyl, auto is pinging under load. Sometimes only slight load. > Not knocking, but pinging. It has 35000 miles on it. I put in new Champion > truck plugs at about 32,000 miles and gapped them correctly to 0.35". > > No pinging if I use 89 octane gas, only with 87 octane. Pinging just started > a couple of months ago. > > Runs fine otherwise. I am guessing re-formulated winter gas (Cleveland, > Ohio) is the problem, but there was absolutely no pinging last winter. > > Any ideas? You might try using a different brand and hope you get lucky. Or try the middle cost semi-premium. The missus' '95 4.0 does the same thing under light load at low-moderate rpm where the transmission doesn't downshift under moderate accel. Dealer claims it is harmless but it is annoying enough I just step up one grade at lower elevations. -- Fan of the dumbest team in America. |
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