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Big Iron 06-22-2006 10:32 AM

Re: 02 Liberty lift
 
Yup, I'm sure.
I've got a little over three thousand dollars worth sitting in crates out in
the garage right now. Poor Ajax can't even stretch out. The stone will be
floor and backsplash. Granite will be on the countertops and possibly behind
the stove.
I looked at the porcelain tile and it DOES look really good but the patterns
repeated too often and I know this will sound really strange but the batch
that I saw (at a quality tile place too) -- the color screens from the
printing were not properly aligned so the pattern was ever so slightly
blurred. most people would never notice it but *I* did. It would have given
me vertigo until it drove me mad MAD I TELL YOU MUHAHAHAHAHAAAA...
blubbbbllubbbb flltttbbleeemmm

As far as the floor. Our house is in the country. It's not a fancy house and
if the stones get a little wear on them, then so be it. I wanted natural
elements and this just called to me. We don't often drink red kool aide or
eat much Jello and I will do my best to keep it well sealed for protection.
No little kids to torture so I think we're fairly safe until we have another
party.

Thanks for the warning though!

Kate

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9qcmg.26372$VE1.8929@newssvr14.news.prodigy.c om...
> Travertine stains and is a high maintenance material. You SURE you want to
> put real travertine in your Kitchen? I went with a high quality porcelain
> tile travertine look. You have to get really close to tell the difference.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
>
>> We have lots of space, and w'e love to have you! Sreiously!
>>
>> Umm... if you do though, gimmie a few weeks though - right now, we are a
>> disaster zone.
>> All of the living room stuff is down the hall stuffed into the guest
>> rooms.
>>
>> It's sure gonna be pretty when it's finished though! 3 1/2" Maple plank
>> in the living room, travartine in the dining room and we're putting
>> granite and travartine in the kitchen. I am SO SORE and SO TIRED and we
>> are only now halfway throught the living room. It has taken us a long
>> time because of taking out the wall and replacing the front door but I
>> like this room now, I didn't before.
>>
>> K.




Big Iron 06-22-2006 10:32 AM

Re: 02 Liberty lift
 
Yup, I'm sure.
I've got a little over three thousand dollars worth sitting in crates out in
the garage right now. Poor Ajax can't even stretch out. The stone will be
floor and backsplash. Granite will be on the countertops and possibly behind
the stove.
I looked at the porcelain tile and it DOES look really good but the patterns
repeated too often and I know this will sound really strange but the batch
that I saw (at a quality tile place too) -- the color screens from the
printing were not properly aligned so the pattern was ever so slightly
blurred. most people would never notice it but *I* did. It would have given
me vertigo until it drove me mad MAD I TELL YOU MUHAHAHAHAHAAAA...
blubbbbllubbbb flltttbbleeemmm

As far as the floor. Our house is in the country. It's not a fancy house and
if the stones get a little wear on them, then so be it. I wanted natural
elements and this just called to me. We don't often drink red kool aide or
eat much Jello and I will do my best to keep it well sealed for protection.
No little kids to torture so I think we're fairly safe until we have another
party.

Thanks for the warning though!

Kate

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9qcmg.26372$VE1.8929@newssvr14.news.prodigy.c om...
> Travertine stains and is a high maintenance material. You SURE you want to
> put real travertine in your Kitchen? I went with a high quality porcelain
> tile travertine look. You have to get really close to tell the difference.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
>
>> We have lots of space, and w'e love to have you! Sreiously!
>>
>> Umm... if you do though, gimmie a few weeks though - right now, we are a
>> disaster zone.
>> All of the living room stuff is down the hall stuffed into the guest
>> rooms.
>>
>> It's sure gonna be pretty when it's finished though! 3 1/2" Maple plank
>> in the living room, travartine in the dining room and we're putting
>> granite and travartine in the kitchen. I am SO SORE and SO TIRED and we
>> are only now halfway throught the living room. It has taken us a long
>> time because of taking out the wall and replacing the front door but I
>> like this room now, I didn't before.
>>
>> K.




Big Iron 06-22-2006 10:32 AM

Re: 02 Liberty lift
 
Yup, I'm sure.
I've got a little over three thousand dollars worth sitting in crates out in
the garage right now. Poor Ajax can't even stretch out. The stone will be
floor and backsplash. Granite will be on the countertops and possibly behind
the stove.
I looked at the porcelain tile and it DOES look really good but the patterns
repeated too often and I know this will sound really strange but the batch
that I saw (at a quality tile place too) -- the color screens from the
printing were not properly aligned so the pattern was ever so slightly
blurred. most people would never notice it but *I* did. It would have given
me vertigo until it drove me mad MAD I TELL YOU MUHAHAHAHAHAAAA...
blubbbbllubbbb flltttbbleeemmm

As far as the floor. Our house is in the country. It's not a fancy house and
if the stones get a little wear on them, then so be it. I wanted natural
elements and this just called to me. We don't often drink red kool aide or
eat much Jello and I will do my best to keep it well sealed for protection.
No little kids to torture so I think we're fairly safe until we have another
party.

Thanks for the warning though!

Kate

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9qcmg.26372$VE1.8929@newssvr14.news.prodigy.c om...
> Travertine stains and is a high maintenance material. You SURE you want to
> put real travertine in your Kitchen? I went with a high quality porcelain
> tile travertine look. You have to get really close to tell the difference.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
>
>> We have lots of space, and w'e love to have you! Sreiously!
>>
>> Umm... if you do though, gimmie a few weeks though - right now, we are a
>> disaster zone.
>> All of the living room stuff is down the hall stuffed into the guest
>> rooms.
>>
>> It's sure gonna be pretty when it's finished though! 3 1/2" Maple plank
>> in the living room, travartine in the dining room and we're putting
>> granite and travartine in the kitchen. I am SO SORE and SO TIRED and we
>> are only now halfway throught the living room. It has taken us a long
>> time because of taking out the wall and replacing the front door but I
>> like this room now, I didn't before.
>>
>> K.




twaldron 06-22-2006 10:55 AM

Re: 02 Liberty lift
 
Sounds like it will be really nice. I ran into the same problem with the
blurred patterns and found some in all of the tile brands. I had to pick
single batches that had none. That also mixed up the patterns better. I
love the natural stone look, too!

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Big Iron wrote:
> Yup, I'm sure.
> I've got a little over three thousand dollars worth sitting in crates out in
> the garage right now. Poor Ajax can't even stretch out. The stone will be
> floor and backsplash. Granite will be on the countertops and possibly behind
> the stove.
> I looked at the porcelain tile and it DOES look really good but the patterns
> repeated too often and I know this will sound really strange but the batch
> that I saw (at a quality tile place too) -- the color screens from the
> printing were not properly aligned so the pattern was ever so slightly
> blurred. most people would never notice it but *I* did. It would have given
> me vertigo until it drove me mad MAD I TELL YOU MUHAHAHAHAHAAAA...
> blubbbbllubbbb flltttbbleeemmm
>
> As far as the floor. Our house is in the country. It's not a fancy house and
> if the stones get a little wear on them, then so be it. I wanted natural
> elements and this just called to me. We don't often drink red kool aide or
> eat much Jello and I will do my best to keep it well sealed for protection.
> No little kids to torture so I think we're fairly safe until we have another
> party.
>
> Thanks for the warning though!
>
> Kate
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:9qcmg.26372$VE1.8929@newssvr14.news.prodigy.c om...
>
>>Travertine stains and is a high maintenance material. You SURE you want to
>>put real travertine in your Kitchen? I went with a high quality porcelain
>>tile travertine look. You have to get really close to tell the difference.
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>We have lots of space, and w'e love to have you! Sreiously!
>>>
>>>Umm... if you do though, gimmie a few weeks though - right now, we are a
>>>disaster zone.
>>>All of the living room stuff is down the hall stuffed into the guest
>>>rooms.
>>>
>>>It's sure gonna be pretty when it's finished though! 3 1/2" Maple plank
>>>in the living room, travartine in the dining room and we're putting
>>>granite and travartine in the kitchen. I am SO SORE and SO TIRED and we
>>>are only now halfway throught the living room. It has taken us a long
>>>time because of taking out the wall and replacing the front door but I
>>>like this room now, I didn't before.
>>>
>>>K.

>
>
>


twaldron 06-22-2006 10:55 AM

Re: 02 Liberty lift
 
Sounds like it will be really nice. I ran into the same problem with the
blurred patterns and found some in all of the tile brands. I had to pick
single batches that had none. That also mixed up the patterns better. I
love the natural stone look, too!

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Big Iron wrote:
> Yup, I'm sure.
> I've got a little over three thousand dollars worth sitting in crates out in
> the garage right now. Poor Ajax can't even stretch out. The stone will be
> floor and backsplash. Granite will be on the countertops and possibly behind
> the stove.
> I looked at the porcelain tile and it DOES look really good but the patterns
> repeated too often and I know this will sound really strange but the batch
> that I saw (at a quality tile place too) -- the color screens from the
> printing were not properly aligned so the pattern was ever so slightly
> blurred. most people would never notice it but *I* did. It would have given
> me vertigo until it drove me mad MAD I TELL YOU MUHAHAHAHAHAAAA...
> blubbbbllubbbb flltttbbleeemmm
>
> As far as the floor. Our house is in the country. It's not a fancy house and
> if the stones get a little wear on them, then so be it. I wanted natural
> elements and this just called to me. We don't often drink red kool aide or
> eat much Jello and I will do my best to keep it well sealed for protection.
> No little kids to torture so I think we're fairly safe until we have another
> party.
>
> Thanks for the warning though!
>
> Kate
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:9qcmg.26372$VE1.8929@newssvr14.news.prodigy.c om...
>
>>Travertine stains and is a high maintenance material. You SURE you want to
>>put real travertine in your Kitchen? I went with a high quality porcelain
>>tile travertine look. You have to get really close to tell the difference.
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>We have lots of space, and w'e love to have you! Sreiously!
>>>
>>>Umm... if you do though, gimmie a few weeks though - right now, we are a
>>>disaster zone.
>>>All of the living room stuff is down the hall stuffed into the guest
>>>rooms.
>>>
>>>It's sure gonna be pretty when it's finished though! 3 1/2" Maple plank
>>>in the living room, travartine in the dining room and we're putting
>>>granite and travartine in the kitchen. I am SO SORE and SO TIRED and we
>>>are only now halfway throught the living room. It has taken us a long
>>>time because of taking out the wall and replacing the front door but I
>>>like this room now, I didn't before.
>>>
>>>K.

>
>
>


twaldron 06-22-2006 10:55 AM

Re: 02 Liberty lift
 
Sounds like it will be really nice. I ran into the same problem with the
blurred patterns and found some in all of the tile brands. I had to pick
single batches that had none. That also mixed up the patterns better. I
love the natural stone look, too!

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Big Iron wrote:
> Yup, I'm sure.
> I've got a little over three thousand dollars worth sitting in crates out in
> the garage right now. Poor Ajax can't even stretch out. The stone will be
> floor and backsplash. Granite will be on the countertops and possibly behind
> the stove.
> I looked at the porcelain tile and it DOES look really good but the patterns
> repeated too often and I know this will sound really strange but the batch
> that I saw (at a quality tile place too) -- the color screens from the
> printing were not properly aligned so the pattern was ever so slightly
> blurred. most people would never notice it but *I* did. It would have given
> me vertigo until it drove me mad MAD I TELL YOU MUHAHAHAHAHAAAA...
> blubbbbllubbbb flltttbbleeemmm
>
> As far as the floor. Our house is in the country. It's not a fancy house and
> if the stones get a little wear on them, then so be it. I wanted natural
> elements and this just called to me. We don't often drink red kool aide or
> eat much Jello and I will do my best to keep it well sealed for protection.
> No little kids to torture so I think we're fairly safe until we have another
> party.
>
> Thanks for the warning though!
>
> Kate
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:9qcmg.26372$VE1.8929@newssvr14.news.prodigy.c om...
>
>>Travertine stains and is a high maintenance material. You SURE you want to
>>put real travertine in your Kitchen? I went with a high quality porcelain
>>tile travertine look. You have to get really close to tell the difference.
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>We have lots of space, and w'e love to have you! Sreiously!
>>>
>>>Umm... if you do though, gimmie a few weeks though - right now, we are a
>>>disaster zone.
>>>All of the living room stuff is down the hall stuffed into the guest
>>>rooms.
>>>
>>>It's sure gonna be pretty when it's finished though! 3 1/2" Maple plank
>>>in the living room, travartine in the dining room and we're putting
>>>granite and travartine in the kitchen. I am SO SORE and SO TIRED and we
>>>are only now halfway throught the living room. It has taken us a long
>>>time because of taking out the wall and replacing the front door but I
>>>like this room now, I didn't before.
>>>
>>>K.

>
>
>


Big Iron 06-23-2006 05:01 AM

DIY
 

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:gbymg.155515$F_3.116582@newssvr29.news.prodig y.net...
> Sounds like it will be really nice. I ran into the same problem with the
> blurred patterns and found some in all of the tile brands. I had to pick
> single batches that had none. That also mixed up the patterns better. I
> love the natural stone look, too!
>
> tw



Thanks for the words of encouragement.
When I get the office stuff set up again I will start posting pictures.

I'm actually relieved to hear that I am not the only goofball that can see
blurred patterns in things like that. I'm also glad to hear that it bothers
you too. There are times that my type A personality becomes more of an OCD
than anything else... I'm working on it though. Putting down another wood
floor has reminded me that everything canNOT be perfectly aligned nor do all
of the wood grains flow into single patterns along a floor.

Now, I will slink back into my corner.

:)

Kate



Big Iron 06-23-2006 05:01 AM

DIY
 

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:gbymg.155515$F_3.116582@newssvr29.news.prodig y.net...
> Sounds like it will be really nice. I ran into the same problem with the
> blurred patterns and found some in all of the tile brands. I had to pick
> single batches that had none. That also mixed up the patterns better. I
> love the natural stone look, too!
>
> tw



Thanks for the words of encouragement.
When I get the office stuff set up again I will start posting pictures.

I'm actually relieved to hear that I am not the only goofball that can see
blurred patterns in things like that. I'm also glad to hear that it bothers
you too. There are times that my type A personality becomes more of an OCD
than anything else... I'm working on it though. Putting down another wood
floor has reminded me that everything canNOT be perfectly aligned nor do all
of the wood grains flow into single patterns along a floor.

Now, I will slink back into my corner.

:)

Kate



Big Iron 06-23-2006 05:01 AM

DIY
 

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:gbymg.155515$F_3.116582@newssvr29.news.prodig y.net...
> Sounds like it will be really nice. I ran into the same problem with the
> blurred patterns and found some in all of the tile brands. I had to pick
> single batches that had none. That also mixed up the patterns better. I
> love the natural stone look, too!
>
> tw



Thanks for the words of encouragement.
When I get the office stuff set up again I will start posting pictures.

I'm actually relieved to hear that I am not the only goofball that can see
blurred patterns in things like that. I'm also glad to hear that it bothers
you too. There are times that my type A personality becomes more of an OCD
than anything else... I'm working on it though. Putting down another wood
floor has reminded me that everything canNOT be perfectly aligned nor do all
of the wood grains flow into single patterns along a floor.

Now, I will slink back into my corner.

:)

Kate



twaldron 06-23-2006 10:09 AM

Re: DIY
 
:) No, you're not the only one. I'm sure once I was standing on the
tile you couldn't tell, but while I was holding it in the store, it was
most definitely blurred. I just assumed the silk screen ran. Problem is,
they weren't all that way, so I had something to compare the blurred
ones to. All I could envision is letting it go, then hating it once it
was laid out. Arg!

At the same time, I put down $12k worth of brand new real solid white
oak thick plank hard woods. Once it was all nice and perfect, I had the
guys take a bunch of hand scrapers and literally scrape off about 4
trash cans full of wood off the top. You couldn't do that much damage to
a wood floor in 500 years of use. Talk about wondering if I'm doing the
right thing!!!

I think they both look great!

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Big Iron wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:gbymg.155515$F_3.116582@newssvr29.news.prodig y.net...
>
>>Sounds like it will be really nice. I ran into the same problem with the
>>blurred patterns and found some in all of the tile brands. I had to pick
>>single batches that had none. That also mixed up the patterns better. I
>>love the natural stone look, too!
>>
>>tw

>
>
>
> Thanks for the words of encouragement.
> When I get the office stuff set up again I will start posting pictures.
>
> I'm actually relieved to hear that I am not the only goofball that can see
> blurred patterns in things like that. I'm also glad to hear that it bothers
> you too. There are times that my type A personality becomes more of an OCD
> than anything else... I'm working on it though. Putting down another wood
> floor has reminded me that everything canNOT be perfectly aligned nor do all
> of the wood grains flow into single patterns along a floor.
>
> Now, I will slink back into my corner.
>
> :)
>
> Kate
>
>



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