'00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

"00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
at idle.

When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.

A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
worry me.

Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?

thanks for any help.

Marc

Re: '00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

Marc did pass the time by typing:
> "00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
> seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
> about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
> at idle.
>
> When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
> afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
> it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
> all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.
>
> A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
> worry me.
>
> Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?

Or the electric clutch/bearings. Where is the noise coming from?
A piece of rubber hose stuck in your ear and pressed against the
compressor will let you know where the noise is coming from.

There should be no air in the system at all, just R134a. If someone
stuck in loads more oil then it probably wouldn't grone it would
just seize.

Before you start guessing try finding a local A/C service place that
will give you a free (or low cost) estimate.

--
DougW

Re: '00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

Marc did pass the time by typing:
> "00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
> seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
> about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
> at idle.
>
> When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
> afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
> it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
> all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.
>
> A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
> worry me.
>
> Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?

Or the electric clutch/bearings. Where is the noise coming from?
A piece of rubber hose stuck in your ear and pressed against the
compressor will let you know where the noise is coming from.

There should be no air in the system at all, just R134a. If someone
stuck in loads more oil then it probably wouldn't grone it would
just seize.

Before you start guessing try finding a local A/C service place that
will give you a free (or low cost) estimate.

--
DougW

Re: '00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

Marc did pass the time by typing:
> "00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
> seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
> about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
> at idle.
>
> When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
> afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
> it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
> all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.
>
> A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
> worry me.
>
> Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?

Or the electric clutch/bearings. Where is the noise coming from?
A piece of rubber hose stuck in your ear and pressed against the
compressor will let you know where the noise is coming from.

There should be no air in the system at all, just R134a. If someone
stuck in loads more oil then it probably wouldn't grone it would
just seize.

Before you start guessing try finding a local A/C service place that
will give you a free (or low cost) estimate.

--
DougW

Re: '00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

Marc did pass the time by typing:
> "00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
> seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
> about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
> at idle.
>
> When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
> afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
> it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
> all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.
>
> A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
> worry me.
>
> Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?

Or the electric clutch/bearings. Where is the noise coming from?
A piece of rubber hose stuck in your ear and pressed against the
compressor will let you know where the noise is coming from.

There should be no air in the system at all, just R134a. If someone
stuck in loads more oil then it probably wouldn't grone it would
just seize.

Before you start guessing try finding a local A/C service place that
will give you a free (or low cost) estimate.

--
DougW

Re: '00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

Hi

I've had it since late Feb. and no one has put anything in it, I
borrowed a pressure gauge from the neighbor down the street. He said
that 30psi is fine, and the output temps are fine as well.

But it wouldn't make the noise for him when he came down. It is like
a "rrrmmmph, rmmmphh, rmmmphh" and then it will just settle down and it
is ok then. I can let it run for say 10 minutes on a drive, then shut
down, restart 30 minutes later and when switched-on it won't make the
noise then.

The electric clutch is on the front of the compressor, is it possible to
differentiate between the compressor and the clutch even with
aforementioned hose? Obviously it is engaging and turning or I wouldn't
be getting upper 30's from deep in the center vent, correct?

In article <1mygc.35925$ec1.9081@okepread01>,
post.replies@invalid.address says...
> Marc did pass the time by typing:
> > "00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
> > seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
> > about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
> > at idle.
> >
> > When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
> > afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
> > it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
> > all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.
> >
> > A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
> > worry me.
> >
> > Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?
>
> Or the electric clutch/bearings. Where is the noise coming from?
> A piece of rubber hose stuck in your ear and pressed against the
> compressor will let you know where the noise is coming from.
>
> There should be no air in the system at all, just R134a. If someone
> stuck in loads more oil then it probably wouldn't grone it would
> just seize.
>
> Before you start guessing try finding a local A/C service place that
> will give you a free (or low cost) estimate.
>
>

Re: '00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

Hi

I've had it since late Feb. and no one has put anything in it, I
borrowed a pressure gauge from the neighbor down the street. He said
that 30psi is fine, and the output temps are fine as well.

But it wouldn't make the noise for him when he came down. It is like
a "rrrmmmph, rmmmphh, rmmmphh" and then it will just settle down and it
is ok then. I can let it run for say 10 minutes on a drive, then shut
down, restart 30 minutes later and when switched-on it won't make the
noise then.

The electric clutch is on the front of the compressor, is it possible to
differentiate between the compressor and the clutch even with
aforementioned hose? Obviously it is engaging and turning or I wouldn't
be getting upper 30's from deep in the center vent, correct?

In article <1mygc.35925$ec1.9081@okepread01>,
post.replies@invalid.address says...
> Marc did pass the time by typing:
> > "00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
> > seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
> > about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
> > at idle.
> >
> > When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
> > afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
> > it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
> > all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.
> >
> > A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
> > worry me.
> >
> > Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?
>
> Or the electric clutch/bearings. Where is the noise coming from?
> A piece of rubber hose stuck in your ear and pressed against the
> compressor will let you know where the noise is coming from.
>
> There should be no air in the system at all, just R134a. If someone
> stuck in loads more oil then it probably wouldn't grone it would
> just seize.
>
> Before you start guessing try finding a local A/C service place that
> will give you a free (or low cost) estimate.
>
>

Re: '00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

Hi

I've had it since late Feb. and no one has put anything in it, I
borrowed a pressure gauge from the neighbor down the street. He said
that 30psi is fine, and the output temps are fine as well.

But it wouldn't make the noise for him when he came down. It is like
a "rrrmmmph, rmmmphh, rmmmphh" and then it will just settle down and it
is ok then. I can let it run for say 10 minutes on a drive, then shut
down, restart 30 minutes later and when switched-on it won't make the
noise then.

The electric clutch is on the front of the compressor, is it possible to
differentiate between the compressor and the clutch even with
aforementioned hose? Obviously it is engaging and turning or I wouldn't
be getting upper 30's from deep in the center vent, correct?

In article <1mygc.35925$ec1.9081@okepread01>,
post.replies@invalid.address says...
> Marc did pass the time by typing:
> > "00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
> > seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
> > about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
> > at idle.
> >
> > When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
> > afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
> > it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
> > all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.
> >
> > A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
> > worry me.
> >
> > Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?
>
> Or the electric clutch/bearings. Where is the noise coming from?
> A piece of rubber hose stuck in your ear and pressed against the
> compressor will let you know where the noise is coming from.
>
> There should be no air in the system at all, just R134a. If someone
> stuck in loads more oil then it probably wouldn't grone it would
> just seize.
>
> Before you start guessing try finding a local A/C service place that
> will give you a free (or low cost) estimate.
>
>

Re: '00 XJ - A/C possible problem? Loud groaning on switch-on..
 

Hi

I've had it since late Feb. and no one has put anything in it, I
borrowed a pressure gauge from the neighbor down the street. He said
that 30psi is fine, and the output temps are fine as well.

But it wouldn't make the noise for him when he came down. It is like
a "rrrmmmph, rmmmphh, rmmmphh" and then it will just settle down and it
is ok then. I can let it run for say 10 minutes on a drive, then shut
down, restart 30 minutes later and when switched-on it won't make the
noise then.

The electric clutch is on the front of the compressor, is it possible to
differentiate between the compressor and the clutch even with
aforementioned hose? Obviously it is engaging and turning or I wouldn't
be getting upper 30's from deep in the center vent, correct?

In article <1mygc.35925$ec1.9081@okepread01>,
post.replies@invalid.address says...
> Marc did pass the time by typing:
> > "00 XJ with 50k, sanden compressor. According to pressure gauge I'm
> > seeing about 30psi from the low port. Thermometer in center vent reading
> > about 39f with 75f ambient after driving around, center vent about 55f
> > at idle.
> >
> > When the A/C hasn't been on for a while (like overnight or an
> > afternoon), when first switched on the compressor groans and sounds like
> > it is going to come apart. After about 10-15 seconds it settles down and
> > all is well. Serpentine belt is tensioned correctly.
> >
> > A/C works fine, but this happening at switch-on is really starting to
> > worry me.
> >
> > Excess air in system? too much oil? or gas?
>
> Or the electric clutch/bearings. Where is the noise coming from?
> A piece of rubber hose stuck in your ear and pressed against the
> compressor will let you know where the noise is coming from.
>
> There should be no air in the system at all, just R134a. If someone
> stuck in loads more oil then it probably wouldn't grone it would
> just seize.
>
> Before you start guessing try finding a local A/C service place that
> will give you a free (or low cost) estimate.
>
>