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Hello everyone.....bought a brand new 2012 Overland 6 months ago. So far I love it. :newbie:

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Fancy, put some pictures up! Welcome to the forums.

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Well....on popular demand....my first attempt to attach a pic....:biggrin:

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Looks pretty neat!

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Man, I like those new Grands! Very nice!
I bought one of the original 93' Grands. Nice Jeep but drank too much!
I think the new ones are a lot better.

Welcome and remeber 'Jeep - The Orignal 4 Letter Word'

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Yes these things are not bad especially on the highway. It also depends on how hard you push it.

Thanks I appreciate the warm welcome.

But originally Jeep wasn't a 4 letter word....it was actually a 2 letter word.....

Jeep word has a bit of history behind it.....a vehicle that could take the troops on all terrains was built specifically for the military.....it was then called "General Purpose" vehicle....short name GP.

After the war the same vehicle was made available to the public and then from GP, it started its name Jeep. :smilie_daumenpos:

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You are partially correct.

The actual word 'Jeep' is a 4 letter word. Although the vehicle started as 'GP', the vehicle name was changed during WWII.
Willy's was first to use the term 'Jeep' in one of their production vehicles.

'in a 1941 Army manual it refers "GP" as Government 80" wheel base car (Jeep). Before then in 1936, the term 'Jeep' was it introduced to the world by a Popeye comic strip character, "Eugene the Jeep". The only words Eugene could say were "Jeep, Jeep", and "GP" then became "Jeep".
Then the "Willys Quarter-Ton Jeep was 1st used by the U.S. military in WWII. When the WWII Jeep was issued during wartime, the term "Jeep" was here to stay'

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Thanks dude.....I joined the right forum...you passed the test :worshippy: LOL

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Hey guys, soo anyways i have a question, I live in bc and deciding to move to alberta in a couple months, and i am thinking to buy a jeep to use to drive down back in bc on my days off, now my question is that if anyone here have or tried to drive thier jeep long drive atleast 1500km? if soo if anyone can tell me if they have problem with thier jeep after driving that for too long.

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What makes you think you want a Jeep?
I have a 2011 Wrangler Sport. I would not be afraid to drive it anywhere.

But that being said, for that amount of miles in a repeatable situation, I would consider something with better gas mileage.
Some of the newer non sporty Jeep models are better but doubt any can get in the 5 - 7 km/ltr range.
That's what I would be looking for to do that trip constantly.

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I agree a Wrangler isn't a good long distance vehicle. But if you plan to do some off roading once you get there. I don't see an issue with using it.

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We use jeeps to get to our sugar cane fields in phillipines, seeing the toughness of jeeps made me fall inlove with the jeeps. I am thinking of getting a 2012 or 2013 jeep wrangler Sahara hard tops, auto transmission. And I will be putting lifts and a bigger tires on it. And I read that if you put a bigger tires than it comes with it will effect the gas Milages of the vehicles. Also I'm concern about over heating since ill be driving that long. And shortining the life of the vehicle with driving for that long constantly. Cuz I heard that new jeeps breaks down a lot now adays.

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If your planning to put in a lift kit you might be better off going with the lower end model like I did. (still waiting..) But i got the Sport S Model, with Power Options, Hard Top and upgraded the audio (free satilite radio) and i saved a ton of money compared to getting the sahara model. There are a few small things the sahara has over the sport, but major is the suspension. Sport is using hydraulic while the Sahara is using the Gas Shocks, but if your going to lift it your going to replace the shocks right? So might as well save a few thousand in my opinion that what I did anyways (if your going to put bigger tires on make sure you order the 3.73 rear axle, you will need it if your going to run bigger tires)

Reliability isn't garenteed because I have heard a few issues, but I havn't ever heard of them "breaking down" just things breaking on them and things not functioning properly. Valves and transmissions etc. But i haven't heard of anything actually leaving anyone stranded but it also changes from year to year, so the issues of last year won't be the issues of this year. Your best bet is to get the newest to try and stay ahead of that curve.

Good Luck

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Yes I will be replacing the shocks and all that and putting big tires.

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then your better off with going with what I did, it's cheaper in the end you save alot of money. If you were going to go with the Rubicon then thats a different story, it has better front axle and I believe a rear locker also. The Sahara and the Sport S are petty much the same minute the shocks. BUT.. make sure you get the 3.73 Rear Axle Ratio if your going to get bigger tires your going to need it or you'll loose power and it won't be fun.

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Soo I'm going to be financing my jeep, and this is my first time doing it through a dealership, got any tips for me on how should I deal with the sales person? Cuz I heard from some people (from first time car buyers) they got rip off by the sales person cuz they got suck in to paying more money in thier jeeps.

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I did the same thing, i have a finance also. If you were in the GTA Area I could point you towards someone I know and trust who will make sure everything is laid out in black and white.

Best tip I can give you (i've done this twice now) is just make sure there giving you the monthly price with all the taxes and extras. Some dealerships will only give you the monthly of the MMRSP or they will leave out some details, ask them for a print out of the options with there prices. Compair models and options, ask alot of questions about options what do they mean? What do they include? Whats the warranty cover? Then once you finish the sale, they will ask you if you want to extend your warranty to 7 years. If your going to be modifying it, then don't get it because you will void most of it with addons. Ask them about that.

Don't ever sign on the line the 1st day, especilly if your buying new. Only buy off the lot if your completly satisfyied with the vehicle because otherwise you will be dissapointed further down the road. Test drive different vehicles on there lot (different models of wranglers, 2 door 4 door hard top soft top etc) everytime you come back to reassess the deal. 2nd visit if all your ducks are in a row and you trust the dealer then go for it, if there pushy then back out go somwhere else for sure because there rushing you. Make sure everything is 100% you understand the dotted line.

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Thanks for the info about financing, where is GTA btw? Yes I know some people that got rip off cuz the sales man were pushy and didn't tell them what discount they can get such as incentive and manufacturer discount.

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GTA is the greater toronto area. Ontario pretty much. Chrysler has alot of really great discounts, my dealer said that i get a 2000$ discount because that was the february discount, but he said because i did the paperwork in february it won't be finalized until march when i get it, he said if theres a better deal during march i can take that instead or stick with the standard 2000$.

So theres little tricks and whatnot you can get from a good dealer, there even giving us the option to give extra $ before the jeep actually arrives to reduce our monthlys on our finance. So i am going to get my tax return and a few extra hundred and they will work everything out so it works out perfect. They did a really good job by me as far as i am concerned.

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I agree with what Auto Junkie said. Don't let them intimidate you....I know its easier said that done.

If you were to get a pre-approved loan first then you will have an advantage to negotiate the price. But if you go pre-approved way then your credit will be checked which will bring your credit score down a bit (we should leave that for another day). So just go to one place to get a loan.....but dealerships are less picky when it comes to loans. There is so much to say so if you ask more specific questions I will try to answer.

I am not an expert in anyway but having gone through the first brand new car purchase (6 mos ago) I thought I handled it well. OR at least thats what they made me think....lol

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As far as i know, chrysler does all of there finance loans through outsourced banks. My loan was done through TD Bank i think, but everything was done on the spot with the guys at the dealership. After we signed a confirmation forum to confirm our price point and order, we then approved for a credit loan. With both me and my gf's combined credit we approved no problem.

The prices of the jeeps are pretty standard, theres not a whole lot the dealer can do as far as changing the prices, but they will try to upsell you on something you don't need for sure.

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And you are right Chrysler outsources the finance part. Manufacturers get special rate (buying power) through the banks and the same banks won't offer you the same rate even if you are their client for an auto loan unless of course you have high net worth.

But when you tell the dealer that you will pay cash then they tend to lower the price even more - of course it depends on the make/model and how desperate the dealer is to move their stock off the lot. I know because I tried it few months ago :smile:

In most cases banks / credit unions will not match the manufacturer interest rate. So now you have to do your math and see if you get 1% higher (for example) from the bank and pay cash to the dealer then how much the dealer will reduce and if you are better off going this way - this should include cost of borrowing and if you are planning to make extra payments, etc etc.

I was a FA at a bank and we used to do this way too often for our high value clients and in most cases dealer financing was a better way to go.I personally went through the dealership too....in case you were wondering :laugh:

Having said all that....I learned over the years that there is no perfect way. What worked for me may or may not work for someone else. My 2012 Overland - with Adaptive Cruise, etc was listed for little over $56K. I got it for little over $52K.

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In alot of cases you can get a "off the lot" car for lower of course. But then you have to get common features like Automatic *shiver*.

I guess I pay a premium for my rear gear ratio and my manual transmission, but who cares! It's going to be perfect just the way I ordered it and this is my first new car. But for sure i agree go through the dealer, because most banks will jack up the rates unless your a big investor.