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So I have narrowed it down to an IRO 3" lift with either MX-6 or Bilsteins. Any good shops in the Lower Mainland that do a good install? Don't want to pay an arm and a leg but don't think this is something I can handle on my own
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Lower mainland?? You have no "LOCATION" so how are we to give you a constructive reply to your question
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Which IRO lift are you looking at putting in? Most on a ZJ/WJ are fairly straight forward if you have the basic tools and don't mind a few hours under the jeep, unless your installing the kit that requires welding.
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Ah haha, I am in Metro Vancouver and this is the lift I am considering:
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch..._Code=IR-W_3LK |
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Good basic kit, missing a few parts though. Most important is an A-arm spacer. It's a must have when going oveer 2.5", it will keep the balljoint on top of the pumpkin from breaking when your flexed. Would also consider some front spring holders.
It's a straight forward install, would take about 8-10 hours to do yourself if you've never done one before. |
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According to IRO an A-Arm spacer is needed at more than 4" of lift. Mine wouldn't be wheeled hardcore, would I still need one.
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The following is my personal opinion only. :)
Stand on the bumper and bounce the front and rear 3-4 times and then measure all 4 wheels center of hub to bottom of fender lip and average them out. This is you C-F measurement. A stock WJ has appro. a 18.5" C-F. Depending on what coils you have from factory it may have started to sag a little or a lot. The 3" coils your going to be putting in are based on 3" above "stock" hieght so you may actually be lifting it 3+" from where it sits now. My 04 had the 830lb coils and had dropped 1.25" so when I put my 4.5" lift in the Jeep actually sat closer to 6" higher when it was done. My g/f's 04 had the 1100lb coils and had only dropped about .25". That said think of the way your suspension sits right now. The upper and lower control arms are almost horizontal to the ground and the rear a-arm is at a nice gentle slope. Now your going to lift it 3+", the control arms and axles are going to pull in closer to the center of the Jeep and the a-arm is going to pivot down with it losing some of it's articulation. The spacer is designed to keep you from losing that movement by putting more slope to accomodate the axle moving forward and keeps the joint close to stock performance. For anything over 2.5" this is what I would reccomend. 1. Adj. front disconnects 2. Extended rear links 3. Adj. track bar 4. A-Arm spacer 5. HD rear swaybar 6. HD front swaybar 7. Extended bumpstops 8. Front coil holders 9. Extended shocks 10. Rims with 4.5" of backspacing or spacers Assuming you will be running bigger tires. 11. HD steering stabilizer If there's anything here that you want to discuss or if I've confused you let me know. |
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I run the MX-6's and love them but a lot of people use the blisteins. Both have good reviews.
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Does all of this have to be done at the same time?
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The jeep is primarily going to be a daily driver, no hardcore wheeling will be done. Maybe an occasional trip down a logging road.
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I am most scared of getting death wobble
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My list wasn't for a hardcore offroader, it's for maintaining close to stock handling on a daily driver with a short arm lift. I'll break it down a bit for you.
1. Adj. front disconnects- The front swaybar should idealy be at 30* (25* is acceptable) after the lift, you may or may not be able to do this with fixed length links. 2. Extended rear links- included with the kit. 3. Adj. track bar- When you lift the Jeep the front axle is going to move to the passenger side. With the fixed length track bar it may not have enough length to bring it back in line with the rear axle. 4. A-Arm spacer- Already discussed 5. HD rear swaybar- When you get the Jeep up in the air the backend is going to wiggle around on you because the factory sway bar will be to small to take the force of cornering properly. 6. HD front swaybar- Can be skipped for a DD. 7. Extended bumpstops- will keep the larger tire from moving up high enough to tear out the wheel well liner or accidently tearing the fender off the Jeep. 8. Front coil holders- Can be skipped on a DD 9. Extended shocks- These are a must. 10. Rims with 4.5" of backspacing or spacers assuming that you will be running bigger tires.- You never said what size tires you were going to run after the lift but as you take the Jeep up the wheels need to be moved out to deal with the new height and width of the larger tires so that they don't interfere with the suspension components. 11. HD steering stabilizer- This is a must on any lifted Jeep, the stock stabilizer won't last long with the extra strain on it. I'm not trying to steer you away from IRO or the kit, with 2 WJ's, 2 ZJ's and a TJ I've spent many paychecks on their stuff. I'm a huge fan and would reccomend them to anyone. If you look at all the stuff listed as extras on the page that shows the lift your looking at you'll see everything I've listed except for the a-arm spacer and I'm only reccomending it from my own experience. |
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I'll be running 2007 wrangler wheels and 32" tires
appreciate all your help |
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I don't have any personal experience with Zone stuff but have heard good things. There is one thing with the kit that isn't good though.
When they put lower control arms only in the kit they do this so that you have to come back and get uppers afterwards. Afterwards usually means after you've broken something. When you just put lowers on the upper arms hold the axle in place and the longer lower ones rotate the differential downwards (not good) which puts a lot of strain on your driveshaft and transfer case. The other thing is minor, most of the time you won't need the transfercase drop until your at 5+", but saying that every jeep is slightly different. I'm in Edmonton right now doing a 3" lift on a buddy's WJ I'll post up so better pics when I get home in a couple days. But to give you an idea of what a 3" lift looks like just imagine the tire being 1" higher up than it is right now. This is parts from IRO, KOR, and Mopar with HD swaybars F/R and air overloads in the back. |
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Forgot to mention about your choice of Rims/ tires.
Are you going to be running 32x10.5 or 265/75-16? Or are you looking at something narrower? A 32 is slightly wider than the 265 so you would need a bit more backspacing for an actual 32 plus a bit more trimming to keep it from rubbing. |
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tire size is 255/70/18
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They will fit but your going to be doing some trimming on the bumper, they will rub.
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