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olliebamino 05-04-2010 07:16 PM

Educate me on Jeeps
 
Hey guys, hows it goin?

I might be in the market for a new jeep, however, I dont see many differences between the models.

Can someone inform me on the major differences between the Sport, Sahara, and the rubicon?

I am thinkin about trading in my 2006 Honda Civic Si.

Help me out.

Thanks in advance.

Chris

Mr White 05-04-2010 07:34 PM

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Sport is the cheapest of the 3..usually with 3.07 (3.73 newer ones) gears, you can upgrade when buying it new.. Sahara is a little more expensive.. 3.73 (4.10 usual gears) with d30 and d35 you might find a d44 on this model someone else will tel you more on this model probably.. the Rubicon.. is the most expensive of the 3.. dana 44 front and rear 4.10 gearings.. supposedly heavier joints lockers front and rear.. if you have the bucks buy the ruby.. its got what most of us Offroaders will be putting on our Sport models. There are the new JK 4 door models, more comfortable than the 2 door but offroading at little longer may cause some problems here and there.. but with a big family the space is nice. Remember it will NEVER get the fuel mileage your honda got... keep in mind it has the air-o-dynamics of a BRICK. fuel mileage between 15-20. Buying a older model Don't buy a 4 cy.. gutless...the 6 cy and 4 cy the difference in mpg isn't noticeable.

olliebamino 05-04-2010 07:47 PM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
Thanks for the reply Mr. White, appreciate it.

I am not planning on doing any hardcore offroading. But when I come across some off road terrain, I would like to be able to have some fun with it.
The jeep that caught my eye is a 2008 Jeep Wrangler X 4X4 Sport.

Do we think that for what I need it for, that thats all I would need?

tracklock 05-05-2010 07:19 AM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
Yo! olliebamino
U're on the wright pat.
1 Question, a X or sport model?

olliebamino 05-05-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tracklock (Post 548437)
Yo! olliebamino
U're on the wright pat.
1 Question, a X or sport model?

it says: 2008 Jeep Wrangler X 4X4 Sport

olliebamino 05-05-2010 08:13 PM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
http://superior.fivestardealers.ca/u...9c9314c570.htm

thats the link for it if you wanna peak

tracklock 05-06-2010 09:14 AM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
I've look at the link, the picture is a Rubicon but not the specs, In 2008 you had either a X or Sport model.
If I was U I would go see it before, they don't talk about the tops, I think it a X model with a CD player but I could be wrong.

Check this out http://www.jeep.ca/en/wrangler/ a 2010 for 20495.00$.

olliebamino 05-06-2010 09:52 AM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
I went an looked at it the other day....it was in the evening though, no one was there. What do you mean by you "think its a X model with a cd player"?

For all I need/want a jeep for, thats all you think I need is the sport? That works for me

Thanks for all your help, I really do appreciate it.

tracklock 05-06-2010 12:26 PM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
Yo! olliebamino
With the description on the dealer site, It looks like a X model not a sport, that what I meant,
X are the basic, less options
Sport +option
Rubicon Dana 44 front and rear
Sahara painted fender flares

olliebamino 05-06-2010 12:36 PM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
Ahhh yes, I gotcha. Well from the pricing on that X model, which is a 2008, and the pricing on a new 2010 Sport model, I think I would be silly not to go brand new, no?

Thanks again

tracklock 05-06-2010 01:08 PM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
That why I send U the link from Jeep, shop and compare! and tell Us after:3gears:

langdeyiH45 11-15-2010 01:48 AM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
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KAVIK 11-15-2010 08:04 AM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 
x model was available 2007-2009. In 2010 they renamed the X model to the Sport model and added the Sport S model as well. more at Jeep.ca

Jeepminded 11-15-2010 12:48 PM

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Hey Olliebamino,

You've got some great responses from other members. Funny, I too have a 06 Civic that once end of life will be replaced with a 2DR JK :banana: I've been watching ever since my wife got her DD JKU. I tried the link, didnt see a JK on the site, gone, maybe sold....maybe you bought it ??

You've ID what you want to use the Jeep for which is the first step, next is trim level. I agree with Mr White, Rubi if money is not an issue. Consider the options, most X or Sport (which replaced the X in 2009 i think) will be hit and miss with things like keyless, power windows and doors, colth seats, and even the dual top packages. Also, keep an eye on the tire size and rims, NOT all Jeeps come with the nice 18" aloys. Except for the Rubi, all Jeeps come with D30 and D44, and either 3.21 or 3:73's.

Go to the Saraha, most are optioned out with A/C power windows ect...and nice wheels and rims ect...you pay a bit more.

The Rubi is well, the Rubi, again watch the creature comforts, you will pay a premo for the D44 front and rear, the 4:10s -w- lockers, 4:1 T case and elec-disco.

Pre-owned usually nets more Jeep for less money, but not new and vice versa.

Best thing to do is plenty of homework, ask lots of questions, and then make a decision on what best suits you, you can't loose you will get a Jeep.

:beerchug:

coilrod 11-16-2010 05:47 AM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 

Originally Posted by olliebamino (Post 548475)
Ahhh yes, I gotcha. Well from the pricing on that X model, which is a 2008, and the pricing on a new 2010 Sport model, I think I would be silly not to go brand new, no?

Thanks again

Silly? Depends on what you want. I have seen base 4x4 x's on some hairy trails, and I have taken my 2010 Rubicon Unlimited on some hairy trails where it really did well. I like my 2010 because often my work means driving on roads that ...well, they aren't roads but I enjoy my comfort. If I knew then what I know now...I would have searched out a 2 wheel drive and put aftermarket off road everything for only a few more dollars and a lot more time.
You asked for education, so try google-ing "jeep jk owners discussion". or "jeep jk tech." just be aware that some jk-forums are filled with biased information because some forum owners only allow sponsors' products to be mentioned.
I can't tell you much about other models except old cherokees, but my 2010 unlimited Rubicon has only one "downside" for me. The Rock-trac transfer case is not really a great one for poor weather hiway driving. If you want a good transfer case for commuting on winter roads, the command-trac or NV 241 allows you to keep it in 4 hi at hiway speed even if the roads are providing some good traction.

Also new 2010 jk's should be going 0 interest soon.

Jeepminded 11-16-2010 07:39 PM

Re: Educate me on Jeeps
 

Originally Posted by coilrod (Post 553574)
Silly? Depends on what you want. I have seen base 4x4 x's on some hairy trails, and I have taken my 2010 Rubicon Unlimited on some hairy trails where it really did well. I like my 2010 because often my work means driving on roads that ...well, they aren't roads but I enjoy my comfort. If I knew then what I know now...I would have searched out a 2 wheel drive and put aftermarket off road everything for only a few more dollars and a lot more time.
You asked for education, so try google-ing "jeep jk owners discussion". or "jeep jk tech." just be aware that some jk-forums are filled with biased information because some forum owners only allow sponsors' products to be mentioned.
I can't tell you much about other models except old cherokees, but my 2010 unlimited Rubicon has only one "downside" for me. The Rock-trac transfer case is not really a great one for poor weather hiway driving. If you want a good transfer case for commuting on winter roads, the command-trac or NV 241 allows you to keep it in 4 hi at hiway speed even if the roads are providing some good traction.

Also new 2010 jk's should be going 0 interest soon.

Great point on the Rubis transfercase. Folks rave about the 4:1 ratio, and the final crawl of 73:1 (off the top of my head folks, I know it's up there)
To your point, on a snow covered 401 I have run in 4HI for my commute home, all 65Kms. However, the command trac is 2:73:1, and when you need the 4LOW, its a better application in this example. Hmmm.
All comes down to what you will be doing with the Jeep 98% of the time.

JeepManager 11-17-2010 11:28 AM

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Just my two cents, but I've got 3.73's and the d35. I'm turning 33" MTR's and wheel the crap out of my jeep. If you stick to 31" tires you can take on pretty much anything you'll "happen to come across" and have some fun.

From what it sounds like above you do not need a rubicon. That being said, I wish I had started with one cause now I'm putting a Ford 8.8 axle in the back so I can go to bigger tires.

Most of this thread assumes you are planning on a TJ/CJ/YJ/JK, but you can also do a lot and have a lot of fun with the XJ (Cherokee) or the WJ/ZJ (Grand Cherokee). I even know a guy who hardcore wheels his Commander.

Liberty is decent but not really great for mods and don't even bother with the Compass/Patriot


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